Friday, March 29, 2013

Indications that Sandy Hook shooting was a manufactured event (Summary)

As you’re probably aware, I was planning to close the message forum and blog page, but since I’ve had so many positive comments and so many of you find it useful, I’m considering leaving them both alone for now and just taking a break. I’m still not completely certain about what I want to do, but I thought this would be a good time to summarize things.
I’ve been researching this since it happened, 3+ months ago and I (and others) have noted several indications that this was certainly a manufactured event, planned well in advance. I don’t think there’s a “smoking gun” per say, but there is enough evidence out there that shows conclusively that this is what we’re seeing. I must say that things are stranger than I could have ever imagined. There are some truly evil people behind this.
The goals were multifaceted. I believe that many of the people who participated did so with the idea that this is to benefit the greater good … that no one gets hurt, there are no real victims and since it will advance the cause of taking guns away from the public, reform the mental health system and give the illusion of increased security in our schools, it’s all acceptable. That is how they convince people to go along with it.
I see that there’s clearly a healthcare industry faction involved here. I’ve seen an inordinate amount of mental health workers, child psychologists, autism specialists, and pharmaceutical scientists. They will remain profitable if more people, namely children are diagnosed at earlier ages with various disorders that require medications and therapies. In turn, the diagnosed disorders will prevent them from ever being able to own a firearm. I fear for our children that they will be subjected to so much scrutiny at such a young age.
This event also revealed a push toward global religion with all of the representatives from each religious order joining together and participating in this event. That day at the firehouse there were at least 5 different religious leaders allegedly there to counsel the families. I’m seeing a huge Unity Project influence taking place at Newtown High School. Unity Project is associated with the Baha’i religion which is a religion with a globalist vision – one world currency, one world religion, Agenda 21, etc. Newtown high school is having the kids do “poverty simulations” now. It’s very strange and I would never have my kids participating in these kinds of things in school, where they should be learning math, science, and history.
If you look at the Newtown twitter feed, you’ll see all of the Unity Project posts but an interesting observation is that there’s a complete lack of communication from the students. No one comments there. No one comments at the school’s blog page. In fact, no one comments on any local news articles, even about what should be done with the school. Something feels really “off” about that area. It seems deserted.
But back to the religious influence, consider how quickly they assembled the interfaith prayer group when Obama visited Newtown. Do you really think it was a spontaneous move as a response to this horrific tragedy? I believe it was planned in advance.
I also see a lot of focus on first responders, police, firemen, EMS workers, etc. The whole event took place at the firehouse. How many interviews have we seen with these workers? How many tributes? They want towns to fund more workers. They will want police to be stationed at all of the schools. They are already beginning to do this in many locations. They continue to put more and more money toward drills and emergency operation centers. It’s completely out of control.
I also see a focus on teachers. There will be a push to hire more teachers, especially those with special needs backgrounds so they can work with all of the kids who will be diagnosed with a disorder at the age of one or two.
Schools will look even more like prisons than they already do. There will be check-ins to enter just to visit your child. They will decide if you’re allowed to visit or not. Your kids will be watched constantly on video cameras.
All of these things will lead to more control of the American people and more money spent to keep the central bankers happy. So Sandy Hook is huge and that’s why they spent many years putting it all together, lining up all the right people, choosing the best location to make it happen.
Now, to list the evidence that this was a false flag:
The handling of the scene: In a real situation with a shooting and mass casualties, ambulances would have been rushed to the doors of the building, EMT workers would have entered immediately, checked on the status of each victim, placed them on a stretcher and rushed them to a hospital, even if they couldn’t get a pulse. There would have been efforts to save them. There were none. That defies logic.
They would have never allowed bodies to remain in the building overnight. It is unprecedented. No explanation was ever given for this but how can one not conclude that they were hiding the fact that no bodies needed to be transported anywhere because there were none.
The quick conclusion that Adam Lanza was a lone killer: Announcements were made by Vance very early on about the lone gunman. This was before any investigation took place. This also defies logic. How could they possibly have concluded so definitively that one person was responsible for this? That would never happen in a real situation, yet no one questioned it aside from alternative media and bloggers.
Media Fakery: Many of us have made videos showing that they clearly used green screens in much of the footage and I wouldn’t doubt if it was used in ALL of it. They can control the scene that way. The helicopter footage shown from that day – I believe that footage was shot at an earlier time and that it was recorded from a drill.
The famous shots of the kids being evacuated and the teachers running out of the building were also taken at a different time, the same day as the drill mentioned above since the clothing was the same.
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clayton mcdonnellsshaffrey video capture
*Update 3/29/13 to include two more photos. So, there were FOUR photographers and a video producer at that spot and they ALL happened to capture the McDonnels moment of grief. My original post on this is here.
Above are the famous shots of the families crying and hugging outside of the firehouse. There are 3 photographers credited with the McDonnell shot. Are we really to believe that all of them captured that at the same time? It’s not logical or possible.
There are lots of examples of media fakery. I won’t go into the victim’s happy looking, smiling families because everyone has seen them. Something is clearly off about their behaviors. No one would behave that way in that situation so this is another big indication that it’s not real.
Families set up memorial donation pages immediately: No one who truly lost a child would even consider setting up a Facebook page on the day of the tragedy but that’s what happened here. The Parker’s friends set up a page before there was even word on the status of everyone in the school. Whomever is behind this was sure to start raking in the cash from the earliest possible moment and it seems that it’s been effective.

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Ammo availability and pricing

Several (including myself) are frustrated now with the low availability and high prices of ammo and not being able to practice and enjoy their firearms. Some are paying outrageous prices for ammo and accessories now, some companies are price gouging, and some people are waiting out this absurd and paradoxical dilemma. Some are panicking and rushing out regularly to buy just one box of ammo frequently, no matter the price. So how does a few million gun owners buying a box of ammunition regularly affect the quantity and availability of ammo for many. For that matter, how does the government buying over a billion rounds affect availability. All of the ammunition companies seem to be at full capacity, running several shifts of production several days a week. Ammo manufacturers don’t want to expand production because they fear the same gun control and ownership limitations legislation that gun owners worry about. The ammunition companies as for-profit entities must consider their business risk and are not willing to invest the capital in new equipment, given the uncertainty about how future legislation will affect the ability to purchase ammunition and the restrictions. Florida even has a ridiculous House and Senate Bill pending now that would require an anger management class for those that purchase ammo. So, the frustrations, limitations, uncertainties, and shortages continue. Some believe that even if the demand stopped right now (highly unlikely), it would take ammo manufacturers at least a year to catch up on current backorders. Several of my bulk ammo suppliers have told me that my wait now would be 6-8 months, even given my frequent bulk purchases for my firearms classes. So sadly I must give you my opinion which is we probably will not see the usual “normal” ammunition supplies for the typical shooter for at least a year and maybe longer. Who really knows the answer, given the fluid fluctuations in the complex factors that influence this, but still I hate it. I want to understand it, so have drawn from my micro and macro economic experiences and studies and offer my over-simplified Supply and Demand analysis.
Ammo PricesAmmo price is a result of the complex interaction of the several forces of supply and demand. So it would seem simply that if demand increases, prices rise and if supply increases, prices fall. BUT recognize that Prices are never steady, regardless of the type of ammo product. So, Higher prices decrease the demand and increase the supply, while Lower prices increase the quantity and decrease the supply. We know this from microeconomics. So, we reluctantly accept that the ammo market will move up and down adjusting the quantity of supply and the quantity of demand until they reach an equilibrium Price.
When using the term “Demand” most shooters think the word means a certain volume of spending, as when we say that the demand for guns has fallen off or the demand for ammo is high. But that is not what economists mean when using the term. For economists, demand means not just how much we are spending for a given item, but how much we are spending for that item at its price, and how much we would spend if its price changed.
There is a difference between “Demand” and “Quantity Demanded.” Demand refers to how much (quantity) of ammo is desired by buyers. The “Quantity Demanded” is the amount of ammo shooters are willing to buy at a certain price; the relationship between price and quantity demanded is known as the demand relationship. “Supply” represents how much ammo the market can offer. The “Quantity Supplied” refers to the amount of ammo producers are willing to supply when receiving a certain price. The correlation between price and how much of a good (like ammo) or service is supplied to the market is known as the supply relationship. Price, therefore, is a reflection of supply and demand.
The Demand for ammo is the amount that buyers are willing to purchase and is determined by several factors. The Law of Demand says that when the price of a product (ammo) increases with no change in factors other than price, less product will be bought. So, Low price = more quantity demanded and High price = less quantity demanded. So, generally Demand for ammo works like this and greater quantities sell at lower prices and higher prices come from selling smaller quantities. But, there’s more to the story.
At lower ammo prices new buyers come into the market and those already buying, buy more (Example – compare 9mm ammo-Brand A at $16 a box with ammo-Brand B at $12 a box. At the lower price, shooters that had not been using Brand B would enter the market and more Brand B would be sold. At higher prices some buyers stop buying all together, and the others buy less. (The reverse of the previous example & where we are now.)
So if Demand for ammo is predicated on several factors other than price, what are they. The most important of these are the shooters preferences, tastes, customs, income level, the quality of the ammo being offered, and the availability of competitors’ ammo. All of the above are vital in determining the price that an ammo manufacturer can command for its ammo. This is true whether the business is an ammo manufacturer, barbershop, a graphic arts firm, or a firearm magazine manufacturer.
Often overlooked are shifts in demand which help determine Demand & result from changes in such factors as:
  • Shooters income;
  • Number of shooters;
  • Individual shooter feature preferences & tastes in ammo;
  • Competing ammo brands, quality, & their prices; and
  • Ammo performance & future price expectations.
Overlooked shifts which help determine Supply are:
  • Production costs & how much ammo costs to be produced;
  • Technology used in manufacturing certain ammo;
  • Manufacturers’ expectations about future prices; and
  • Number of ammo suppliers.
These factors can cause changes in the consumption of a given ammo without any change in the price of the ammo product. Such factors tend to change or shift the relationship between the price and the quantity demanded. (Example – Drop in ammo prices occurred when a recognized shooting expert reported on poor performance of Brand X Ammo and stated he would not use that ammo. This one expert caused a shift downward in price of that ammo.)
The Law of Demand partly explains the behavior of a wide range of individual ammo buyers. Those buyers have many differences in ammo preferences/tastes and income that can shift market demand. The Law of Demand attempts to explain the complex market including all of these differences. Shifts in the demand sometimes overshadow the effects of price changes. This has caused some who do not understand the concept of ammo demand to doubt that the law of demand is valid. So, consider the Law of Demand and the shift factors when understanding our current dilemma. Together, demand shifts and price changes account for any changes in demand for ammo or any given product.
Briefly, here are the four basic laws of supply and demand:
  1. If demand increases and supply remains unchanged, a shortage occurs, leading to a higher equilibrium Price. (Seems to be where we are now.)
  2. If demand decreases and supply remains unchanged, a surplus occurs, leading to a lower equilibrium price.
  3. If demand remains unchanged and supply increases, a surplus occurs, leading to a lower equilibrium price.
  4. If demand remains unchanged and supply decreases, a shortage occurs, leading to a higher equilibrium price.
We want to reach the ammo Equilibrium point which is defined as the price-quantity pairing where the quantity demanded is equal to the quantity supplied.
Please understand that while Supply and Demand analysis is a useful precisely-formulated conceptual tool to help us gain an abstract understanding of a complex situation, it does not—nor should it be expected to—give us in addition an accurate and complete description of our actual existing ammo dilemma. So, realistically then what do we do now with the high price of ammo and all the uncertainty.
Dry Fire with Snap Caps
Dry Fire with Snap Caps
Given our current depressing gun control and limited/non-available ammo scenario and the need to regularly practice shooting skills and fundamentals, students ask me “what to do” and how can they “train with the shortages of ammo.” To me dry-fire practice with snap-caps with an unloaded firearm in the privacy of your home is a good, albeit not great, substitute for frequent live-fire range visits. Don’t become complacent and stop training, since your life depends on your skills and accuracy from practicing. I myself refuse to pay $1 a round for 9mm or $2 a round for .45 practice ammunition, if I can even find it. Luckily, I do have some available ammo, but use it mostly for my classes, and can hold out for a few months. I will wait for the demand to stabilize and be unchanged so supply will increase and a surplus occurs, which will lead to the lower equilibrium price and I’ll be a buyer then. Just my “10 cents minus 8 cents” biased opinion. How long? Who knows for sure!
Consider taking a class where the ammo is included in the total price
Consider taking a class where the ammo is included in the total price
Consider taking a class where the ammo is included in the total price, like my classes. The instructor probably has stockpiled some for students. At least you will be able to have ammo and shoot some. Hopefully, this current dilemma will change in less than a year, but I am “pessimistically optimistic,” given the many complex variables discussed and the whims of individuals. Hang in there and do your dry-firing at home and do a little live-fire training to reinforce your fundamentals and keep your skills up. See my article “Basic ’5 and 50′ Practice Drill to Conserve Ammo & Lower Costs.” Also, pray in your own way. SUCCESS!

New Jersey man buys gun for his son and the next day police at the door


A man bought his son a .22 rifle for his 11th birthday. He then took a picture of his son smiling 
with the rifle, which he posted on Facebook. 
One day while he was running errands he got a call from his wife saying that four police offers were at the door along with Child Services. Apparently, someone had called the Child Abuse hotline and reported this guy because of the picture.  The police asked to enter the house because they wanted to see all of the guns and to make sure they were registered and locked up.

You don’t need to register your guns in New Jersey (it’s voluntary) so they were just making excuses trying to get into the house. His wife also asked the police if they had a warrant and they said no, so she refused to let them in the house and they simply left.
The thing is, if this guy had made the mistake of letting the police in the house, no doubt they would have confiscated as many guns as they could. Even if what they did was illegal, it likely would have taken this guy months of paperwork to get the guns back. 
No matter what, never, ever, ever, let the police into your house when they ask.

Wednesday, March 27, 2013

I.S.P. fail to realize they are in violation of the law by having a 64 day wait on FOID


This happened to one of our readers and this is what they stated they did. Under 430 ILCS 65/5) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-5) Sec. 5. The Department of State Police shall either approve or deny all applications within 30 days from the date they are received, and every applicant found qualified pursuant to Section 8 of this Act by the Department shall be entitled to a Firearm Owner's Identification Card upon the payment of a $10 fee. So the reader went and called them and told them you have 5 days to have it mailed or the reader would go to the States Attorney's office and file charges. Do not put up with their shit.  We hope this information you recieve will help you enjoy the article.

People applying for Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification cards are waiting more than 60 days as the State Police experience one of its busiest months ever processing applications, spokeswoman Monique Bond said Tuesday.
More than 70,000 FOID card applications have been received in March, Bond said, putting it on track to be the record month so far for the program.
Every month since December has seen a record number of Illinois residents applying for FOID cards. Officials say 31,249 applications were received in December. In January, 61,172 people applied for a card, and there were 56,078 applications in February. State officials noted that at the end of January the backlog on processing FOID cards was more than 70,000.
However, the state police's contention that applicants have to wait 64 days for a card is disputed by Greg Tropino Sr., president of GAT Guns in East Dundee. He told The (Elgin) Courier-News that he is hearing from his customers that it is taking them 10 to 15 weeks to receive a FOID card that gun owners in Illinois are required to have. Tropino says the cards are supposed to be in the hands of gun buyers in 30 days or less.
"When people start hearing or thinking that things might be banned, they tend to run out and buy those things while they can," Tropino suggested as the reason FOID card applications have increased.
Officials say state police received 338,610 FOID applications last year. In the first three months of 2013, applications are nearing 188,000, more than half of the applications received in 2012.
Because of the high demand, The Courier-News reports, a call made Tuesday to a customer service telephone line set up for FOID card information was on hold for 10 minutes before the caller was transferred to a recorded message that noted the high call volume and suggested calling back later. The caller was then disconnected.
FOID cards are valid for 10 years and cost $10. Applications are available at gun stores or on the Illinois State Police website and require a form and payment to be mailed to Springfield.
The card was created in 1968 as a method to identify Illinois residents eligible to purchase guns and ammunition. Data provided by state police to The (Champaign) News-Gazette indicate there about 1.5 million state residents with FOID cards.

Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Man Charged with Alcohol abuse after smashing 300 dollars in Jack Daniels

Jesse D. Fells, 49, of Berwyn, was charged with retail theft after police were called to USA Beverage, 7200 Madison St. The store clerk said Fells stole a bottle of whisky, but then dropped it when chased out of the store. Fells fled on his bike, police said, but he was eventually caught. The bottle of whisky was valued at about $300. Fells said he planned to go home to "drink it with some girls." Felony charges were approved because he has a prior burglary conviction. He was given a March 21 court date.

Chicago Ape steals baby formula for his lillte chimp

A Chicago man who said he was a "success story" for only stealing things and not committing robberies was charged with theft after taking numerous bottles of baby formula from Walmart on March 8.
Walmart store security said Cornell A. Woods, 46, of Chicago, put several bottles of baby formula in his pocket and left the store without paying. When police arrived, Cornell Woods was lying in the back of a car.
Police recovered eight bottles of formula from Cornell Woods but saw numerous other bottles in the car. The driver, Alonzo Woods, 47, also of Chicago, said he only drove to Walmart and didn't take anything else. Cornell Woods said he got them at another store in Waukegan.
Both men were taken to the police station, where it was discovered that Alonzo's drivers license was suspended.
At the station, both men continued to deny stealing the additional bottles of forumla, of which there were 26 total. Cornell told police he is a "success story" and only steals, but doesn't do drugs or commit robberies or burglaries.
Because of a prior burglary conviction, Cornell was charged with felony retail theft and he was given a March 14 court date.
Alonzo was ticketed for the suspended license and was given an April 16 court date

Monkey Beats Woman at McDonald's With 'Wet Floor' Sign




 

A Franklin Park man was charged with battery after beating a woman in McDonald's with a "wet floor" sign, Forest Park police said.
Levare Boston, 43, was charged after police were called to McDonald's, 420 Des Plaines Ave on March 12. Police saw a woman with cuts on her cheek and nose, and she said she knew Boston from the PADS shelter.
Police reviewed video surveillance and said Boston was seen with another woman, later identified as his girlfriend. The victim tried to leave the restaurant after spotting Boston, who then got up and began arguing with her.
He then was seen grabbing a "wet floor" sign and hitting the victim with it multiple times, police said.
At the station Boston said the woman threw hot coffee at his face, but police said none of his clothes were wet and he showed no signs of injuries. The victim said Boston was mad at her because she "turned down his advances."
Boston was given a May 16 court date.


APB on Sex Offender who is wanted

the State Police is looking for this person call 217-8672050

Monday, March 25, 2013

Esquire's Osama Bin Laden 'Shooter' Didn't Really Pull The Trigger

Last month Esquire published an in-depth look at the miserable life of the the supposed hero identified as "Shooter." Immediately, special operators seemed to reel at the idea of one of their own talking so openly.
Well, now the guys at SOFREP, a website run by and for the military's special operators, have talked to various sources at the Navy's Special Warfare Development Group — DEVGRU, or SEAL Team 6. In doing so, they gathered a very different account of "Shooter" and the circumstances surrounding his exodus from the Navy.
Here's SOFREP's version of the story:
"Shooter" wasn't actually the guy who shot Bin Laden, but to be clear, he was there on the third floor of the Bin Laden compound.
— The real shooter is still at DEVGRU, working as a Navy SEAL.
SEAL Team 6 kicked the faux "shooter" out for talking too openly about the operation, but only after warning him several times to "can it."
— Despite getting the boot from 6, his colleagues encouraged him to remain in the Navy in order to earn his retirement, which he refused to do (which is why he currently finds himself without much income).
Of course, this is a little bit of SOFREP's word against that of Esquire, but in terms of clout in the special operations world, SOFREP's word is a bit more weighty.
It's no mistake either that Brandon Webb, Executive Media Director of SOFREP, wrote the story. Webb is a mini-legend himself in the special operations community, and his access to operators is unprecedented and uncontested.

Gary Johnson is coming to Champaign


 
Governor Gary Johnson's Live Free Tour is Coming to Illinois, April 3!
 
 
Join Gov. Gary Johnson & special guests, including Judge Jim Gray, for a Live Free Evening at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, April 3.
 
When: Wednesday, April 3, 2013
Where: University of Illinois – Urbana-Champaign.
Doors open: 5:30 p.m.
Time: 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.
Cost: Free admission & open to the public!
Student organization: Young Americans for Liberty

Address:
Foellinger Auditorium
709 S. Mathews Avenue
Urbana, Illinois 61801
(Enter building from Quad Plaza)
 
 
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After the Event "Post Rally Party."
 
After the Live Free festivities, join us for a informal gathering with Governor Johnson and Judge Jim Gray. Books, T-Shirts and other merchandise will be available for purchase and for Gov. Johnson to sign. Enjoy a buffet with finger food, a cash bar and drink specials. 
 
When: Wednesday, April 3, 2013
Where: Big Grove Tavern
Address: One East Main Street, Champaign, Illinois 61820
Time: 8:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m.
Cost: $50 Non-Student, $25 Student
Purchase tickets below:
 
A paper ticket will not be required -- purchasing your ticket via Pay-Pal will put you on the guest list.
 
 
 
 
 
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Sunday, March 17, 2013

Sarge

Sarge has taken a tip will be back in a week. Please feel free to look at True News USA

Friday, March 15, 2013

NRA News: Bucket of parts Madigan is trying to Ram Gun control

 
 
 
URGENT: House Speaker Continues Assault on the Second Amendment in Illinois
Trickery and Chicago-style politics employed to ram gun control scheme through state House
House Speaker Mike Madigan continues to force votes on dozens of amendments filed on shell bills in an effort to build his own omnibus gun control bill. Your state Representative needs to hear from you NOW! Due to Madigan’s trickery and forceful behavior, votes on these amendments have been too close for comfort. Time is of the essence: More anti-gun amendments could come up on the House floor this afternoon, and anti-gun politicians are turning up the heat to get your state Representative to vote against your Second Amendment rights in Springfield. Urge your state Representative to stand strong in the face of these deceptive tactics, and vote to protect YOUR Second Amendment rights!
At this time, NRA-ILA has heard that a strict magazine ban amendment, which failed only narrowly, will be heard again today. The House floor votes are close, so every call AND e-mail to your state Representative will make a difference.
Remind your state Representative that he or she represents you! Call AND e-mail them NOW. Don’t let them get away with punishing law-abiding citizens for the acts of criminals!

Contact information for your state Representative can be found here.

Thursday, March 14, 2013

Mr. Patatoe Head wants Madigan to file appeal

 
 
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Gov. Pat Quinn said Wednesday that he wants the Illinois attorney general to appeal a federal court ruling that the state's last-in-the-nation concealed carry ban is unconstitutional, a move that would take it before the U.S. Supreme Court.
But Attorney General Lisa Madigan said she prefers to wait and see whether lawmakers craft a new law this spring that would allow the concealed carry of weapons, as the federal appeals court ordered them to do, because of high volume calls to her office not to by voters.
A three-judge panel of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Illinois' ban last year and gave lawmakers until early June to legalize the practice. Last month, the court declined Madigan's request that the full appeals court reconsider the ruling.
The matter has led to intense hours-long hearings at the State Capitol, where lawmakers and anti-violence advocates from Chicago — which has seen a spike in violence — have been pitted against gun rights advocates from less populated and more conservative areas. The matter has placed Illinois in the spotlight at a time when the nationwide debate over gun control has been reignited.
Quinn, a Chicago Democrat who favors strict gun control including an assault weapons ban, said violence has been an "epidemic" in parts of the state and Illinois should be the nation's leader in keeping the concealed carry ban in place.
"The only hope now would be to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court," he told reporters after an unrelated event. "The attorney general ought to take a look at that and pursue that."
Madigan, who previously said she hadn't decided whether to appeal, appeared at the same event and said she thinks Illinois' current law banning concealed carry is constitutional. But she also wants to wait and see what lawmakers do.
"If the Legislature passes a bill, then appealing would not necessarily be something we need to do, because it would become moot," she said.
The disagreement sets two potential political rivals against each other on a tricky issue for Illinois leaders. Madigan is weighing a Democratic primary challenge against Quinn in next year's gubernatorial election but said Wednesday that she had not yet decided whether to run.
Like Quinn, Madigan is a Chicago Democrat who supports the proposed assault weapons ban, but any stand against concealed carry could alienate voters outside Chicago and other urban centers.
While she mulls a campaign, Madigan has appeared on the national stage in connection with a range of issues, including home foreclosures. Her father, House Speaker Michael Madigan, is the head of the Democratic Party in Illinois and arguably the most powerful Democrat in the state.
On Wednesday, Lisa Madigan dismissed the notion that waiting for a decision on a Supreme Court appeal was a political maneuver related to her campaign plans.
The intense discussions in the Legislature continued Wednesday. A four-hour hearing saw tempers flaring. Republicans called the process malign, flawed and dilatory. Some visibly exasperated members of the caucus even kicked and pounded their desks when one of their motions was denied.
Since the court's December ruling, lawmakers have considered dozens of amendments dealing with concealed carry, many of which would restrict where guns could be carried. That includes gun prohibitions in schools, casinos, stadiums and other locales.
Gun rights advocates argue that the prohibition violates the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment and the appeals court ruling calls for a new law with very few restrictions, if any.

Monday, March 11, 2013

Illinois politicians have own aggenda with tax dollars

We dug in and found out it costs the tax payer $266,273,000,000.00 to prosecute corrupt politics.
This is asshame and we will never get that money back from these croocks.







 
Longtime power broker and Cook County Commissioner William Beavers, who goes on trial Monday on tax-evasion charges, speaks to the media in December regarding his case.
 Former Chicago city clerk James Laski, right, stands by as his attorney, Jeffrey Steinback, holds a news conference at federal court after a sentencing hearing in Chicago, Tuesday, June 13, 2006. A federal judge sentenced Laski to two years in prison for taking bribes to get companies's work in the city's scandal-plagued Hired Truck Program.



Standing inside the crowded media pit at the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse in December, William Beavers listened as his attorney fielded a barrage of questions on the tax-evasion charges leveled against the Cook County commissioner





Goerge Ryan arrest, charged, and convicted of license for higher.
Was released and is on home confinement










  Jessie Jackson Jr. former Democratic representative from Illinois – who’s recently been plastered across headlines for misusing at least $750,000 in campaign funds over seven years
Governor Blagojevich was arrested at his home by federal agents and charged with corruption through the corrupt use" of his authority to fill Barack Obama's vacated United States Senate seat.



A state legislator from Chicago was indicted Thursday on federal charges he made false statements to a bank to obtain a $500,000 increase on a line of credit.



 

Illinois Gov. Otto Kerner was convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury and related charges in 1973.




Illinois state Sen. Donne Trotter added a congressional candidacy to his resume. On Wednesday, he added a felony charge of attempting to board an aircraft with a weapon. Sentencing guidelines for the single criminal count call for between one and three years in prison.



Chicago Alderman Isaac Carothers, chairman of the Chicago City Council's police and fire committee, leaves federal court after his arraignment in Chicago, Monday, June 8, 2009. Carothers pleaded not guilty to charges that he took home repairs worth $40,000 plus campaign contributions and sports tickets in exchange for fixing a zoning case.




Former Illinois Gov. Dan Walker walks through the federal courthouse in Chicago on Aug. 5, 1987, after his indictment on charges of bank fraud, misapplication of bank funds and perjury were announced.


Gov. Rod Blagojevich, Antoin "Tony" Rezko returns to the federal courthouse for the reading of the jury's verdict in his corruption trial in Chicago. William Cellini leaves federal court in Chicago. Cellini was indicted on charges of fraud and extortion conspiracy and attempted extortion in connection with a plan with Antoin "Tony" Rezko and others to block a Hollywood producer's real estate investment company from getting $220 million in teachers pension money to invest unless the producer contributed to Blagojevich. Stuart Levine is seen leaving federal court in Chicago. Levine pleaded guilty in October 2006 to fraud and money laundering in the Antoin "Tony" Rezko schemes and was the government's top witness against Rezko. His conviction was one of many that happened before the investigation into wrongdoing by former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. John Harris, a former top aide to ousted Gov. Rod Blagojevich, leaves the federal building in Chicago after his arrest on corruption charges. Rep. Dan Rostenkowski, D-Chicago, talks to reporters during an appearance Thursday, Nov. 3, 1994 in Chicago. Rostenkowski, the once-mighty symbol of Washington power whose fraud case has made him a target of the term-limits campaign, admits "there's cloud hanging over me now" and asks voters for another chance in the election on November 8. He later pleaded guilty to charges of mail fraud. He was fined and sentenced to 17 months in prison and was pardoned by President Bill Clinton in 2000. Chicago alderman Arenda Troutman speaks during a City Council meeting in this Sept. 27, 2006, file photo. Troutman, voted out of her 20th Ward seat in February 2007, was indicted Wednesday, July 11, 2007, on 13 additional counts including extortion, bribery, mail fraud and income tax evasion. Troutman was originally charged in January 2007, and pleaded not guilty, to one count of bribery for allegedly taking $10,000 in payoffs from a developer who also was working as an FBI mole. Arthur "Ron" Swanson, a former Illinois state senator and lobbyist, arrives at federal court in Chicago, Tuesday, July 11, 2006, for his sentencing after pleading guilty to perjury charges. Chicago Alderman Virgil Jones is searched by security as he enters the federal building in Chicago Wednesday, Jan. 27, 1999, for his extortion conspiracy trial. Jones, 49, was found guilty Thursday, Jan. 28, of accepting $7,000 to allow admittedly corrupt contractor to operate a rock crusher in his 15th Ward on Chicago's South Side. He is the fifth City Council member to be convicted in the federal government's Operation Silver Shovel payoff investigation. Robert Sorich, former patronage chief to Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, leaves federal court with his attorney Thomas Anthony Durkin, left, in Chicago after he was convicted of two counts of mail fraud in a scheme to load the city payroll with campaign workers in defiance of a federal court order. Daley has not been charged with any wrongdoing.